How to Choose from 4 Types of Tires for Winter Driving in BC

GoT_mountain-snowflake-TThere’s been a lot of tire talk lately, which is great. Winter is coming, and you obviously want to be prepared.
We want you to be prepared, too. So, we thought we’d go over the four types of tires you are permitted to use when driving high mountain passes and other signed BC highways requiring winter tires for passenger vehicles.

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By Kantor.JH via Wikimedia Commons

1. Studded Winter Tires
How to identify? 3-peaked mountain and snowflake symbol on sidewall and metal studs on tread
Perform best in? Wet, rough ice, and heavy snow; temperatures below 7C
What else should you know? Studded tires with studs up to 3.5mm are allowed on BC highways from October 1 to April 30 (one month after winter tires requirements). Vehicles weighing less than 4,600 kg can have up to 130 studs per tire, and vehicles weighing more can have up to 175 studs per tire.
It’s also important to note that you should use studded tires on all four wheels for optimal control. Legally, you cannot have studded tires only on the front wheels.

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by A7N8X via Wikimedia Commons

2. Non-Studded Winter Tires
How to identify? 3-peaked mountain and snowflake on sidewall
Perform best in? Rough ice and soft to hard-packed snow; temperatures below 7C
What else should you know? Full winter tires with the mountain/snowflake emblem maintain good traction in winter conditions because they are composed of a rubber compound that stays soft in cold temperatures. They also have an aggressive tread design for added traction on snow and ice.

3. All-Weather Tires
How to identify? 3-peaked mountain and snowflake on sidewall (ask tire dealer about the differences between winter and all-weather tires)
Perform best in? Milder winter conditions with rain and fast-melting snow; temperatures above and below 7C
What else should you know? All-weather tires are the newest type of tire designed to counter winter conditions. What makes them different from standard winter tires is they maintain good handling in both cold and warm temperatures, but can be kept on the vehicle year-round. However, they are made of a compound that is not as soft as standard winter tires, so they do not perform quite as well in cold temperatures. Still, the compound is softer than all-season tires.

2013_wintertire4. All-Season Tires
How to identify? M+S (Mud and Snow) on the sidewall
Perform best in? Milder, dry or slightly wet conditions
What else should you know? All-season tires will not perform as well as standard winter tires in severe conditions; however, all-season tires have a shape and tread design that gives better traction than summer tires in snow and ice. The tire industry indicates M+S tires are made of a hard compound that offers reduced traction when temperatures dip below 7C, compared to winter tires with the 3-peaked mountain and snowflake symbol.

All of these tires are legal on highways with winter tire requirements between October 1 and March 31, as long as they have a minimum 3.5 mm tread depth. Tip: pick up a tire depth gauge – they are inexpensive and available at most stores that sell auto supplies.

For maximum stability in cold weather and on ice, snow and slush, we recommend using standard winter tires with the mountain/snowflake emblem. On the other hand, if you only drive in a milder area (ie. Lower Mainland) that gets rain rather than snow, you may choose all-weather or all-season tires.

BC’s diverse range of weather can make tire shopping confusing – we know. That’s why we created a website to help guide your decision. No matter what type of tire you use, your driving performance is one of your best defences against cold, snow and ice. Give lots of space in poor conditions. And remember, speed limits are for ideal driving conditions – think dry asphalt, warm weather, windows down, wind in hair – so, please slow down when necessary.

Do you have any other winter driving tips or questions about winter tires? Feel free to comment below.

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62 Responses to How to Choose from 4 Types of Tires for Winter Driving in BC

  1. philip on October 29, 2014 at 1:19 am

    Highway 1 east of exit 44 should be a Winter Tire zone. The Lower Mainland can experience non temperate weather in the winter. Motorists need to be prepared for severe driving conditions, even if it is only for just for 3 to 6 weeks of the year. The bottom line is that the driver is always responsible for their vehicle’s traction on the road. If you don’t want to make the investment in snow tires, then stay off the road.

  2. Nicholas Thomas on November 13, 2014 at 8:26 am

    97% of the car tires sold in Canada have the M+S stamp or the Mountain/Snowflake (according to an industry representative interviewed on CBC Radio). So all the new signs on the highway are pretty much a waste of time. I wish the Minister would try driving the Trans-Canada through the mountians in a blizzard with all-season tires with (barely) 3.5 mm tread.

    • tranbceditor on November 13, 2014 at 10:42 am

      Hi Nicholas,
      Thanks for connecting with us here.
      While M+S tires with a 3.5 mm tread are the minimum requirement on mountain passes in BC, we encourage drivers who travel mountain routes regularly to invest in a good set of severe weather rated mountain snowflake winter tires.

      • Nicholas Thomas on November 13, 2014 at 12:33 pm

        So it is ok for drivers who occasionally travel mountain routes and don’t have experience of driving them not to use real winter tires? They can take your advice that “All-season tires provide safe performance in all types of weather”.

        • tranbceditor on November 13, 2014 at 1:15 pm

          All-season tires provide safe performance in all types of weather,

            but will not perform as well as standard winter tires in severe conditions.

          As always, we encourage drivers to check DriveBC so that they are aware of the road conditions along their route and should drive to conditions at all times.

          • Randy on November 6, 2015 at 5:38 pm

            Its a shame our government doesn’t take the advice of RTMA and require “snow tires” on mountain passes. M+S rated tires are the result of the initial introduction of all season tires in the 1980’s. Those tires had aggressive tread close to winter tires. Customers found them noisy and eventually manufacturers evolved them into todays (erroneously named) “all season” tires which have a tread not unlike the old summer tires .In fact true “summer tires ” are usually only available in high performance sized for specialized cars. Most good tire shops will dispute that all season tires are ok for mountain passes.
            It’s also important to note that despite the info saying 3.5mm is passable as tread depth, the industry standard (yes even in Canada) is to measure tread depth in 32nd of an inch. Most tread depth gauges are in 32s , few are in mm.
            My 3rd comment is about the placement of winter tires if only 2 are used. Tire manufactures such as Michelin advise if only installing 2 winter tires on a front wheel drive vehicle, that those tires are installed on the REAR of the vehicle NOT the driving axle as stated here. I know this sounds illogical , but the reasoning is if installed on the front, the greater traction can cause spin outs on situations of braking and turning at the same time or turning at too fast a speed.

          • tranbceditor on November 9, 2015 at 11:40 am

            Thanks for the feedback Randy. Due to a more temperate winter climate in the Lower Mainland and southeastern Vancouver Island, drivers in these areas are not required to use winter tires, (although many drivers choose to use M+S tires year-round). Winter road conditions across the rest of B.C. often include snow and ice and we recommend drivers install mountain/snowflake tires for cold weather driving and, for extreme conditions, carry chains. We recently produced a video titled: 15 Seconds to Safety, and in the video we show the two types of tread depth measurement. Here is a link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo4zyUxY55U
            Regarding your comment about the number of winter tires required and their placement, the law requires that you must have at least 2 matching winter tires on the primary drive axle, but we recommend using 4 matching tires on the four outside corners of the vehicle – even when driving a 4X4 vehicle. Mixing tires with different tread patterns, internal construction and size compromises stability, and should be avoided.

            Hope that this helps.

          • Keith Sketchley on October 25, 2016 at 10:21 am

            That’s not logical.

            “Severe” is a weather condition, which occurs in seasons.
            (We’re talking winter here, they may or may not be better in really west weather.)

            BTW, there’s confusion over the Malahat Mountain Highway which BC refuses to sign as a Mountain Highway. Part of the confusion may be the term “winter tire” which does not mean “snow tire” as many people understand that term.

            BC needs to clean up its web sites for clarity and consistency. (As does WA last I looked.)

          • tranbceditor on October 26, 2016 at 3:26 pm

            Hi Keith,

            There is mountain pass winter tire requirement signage at the entrance to Goldstream Park. It identifies the two acceptable types of tires for travelling over the Malahat. Due to a more temperate winter climate in the Lower Mainland and southeastern Vancouver Island, drivers are not required to use winter tires, although many drivers choose to use M+S tires year-round. Drivers should use discretion when equipping their vehicles. Hope that this helps.

      • Nicholas Thomas on November 13, 2014 at 12:38 pm

        Oh and you can add to those on all-season tires in winter all the foreign tourists who rent cars at Calgary Airport and drive into BC. Ideal for driving while jet-lagged.

  3. Patricia Armstrong on November 17, 2014 at 10:38 am

    What are the regulations involving front wheel drive traction control van with severe winter tires, and two m&s designated tires?

    • tranbceditor on November 18, 2014 at 4:48 pm

      Hello Patricia,
      You must have at least 2 matching winter tires on the same axle, but we recommend using 4 matching tires – even when driving a 4X4 vehicle. Hope that this helps!

  4. John C. on November 25, 2014 at 11:56 am

    The decision to accept M & S tires for winter use is as foolish as raising the speed limits on 15% of BC rural highways. Not one injury prevention organization or trauma specialist agreed with either of these ill-advised changes. All were ignored. This just makes it simpler for everybody, except for the misguiuded who actually believe that the trip over the Coquihalla or up to Whistler in winter really isn’t that or tough when it snows — and weather is so predictable in the mountains!

    To say that all weather tires are safe in all conditions is totally irresponsible. That’s why in some provinces, winter tires are the law. Period. For every vehicle, even rentals.

    The only circumstances in which all weather tires are acceptable all year round in BC are for those drivers who NEVER venture farther north than Burrard Bridge and east past Hope. These changes just give the false assurance that you can “get away” with all seasons. Will MotI be doing surveys of the mopuntains roads this winter to see what proportion of drivers actually do follow their “recommendations” for winter tires in the snow?

    • tranbceditor on November 27, 2014 at 2:42 pm

      Hi John,

      Winter in British Columbia ranges from wet/mild to snow/freezing. We encourage drivers to be prepared, while at the same time, recognizing there are many times when the roads are not covered in snow and ice – people can make the most appropriate tire choices for when and where they decide to drive. While M+S is the minimum requirement on signed highways, we recommend mountain/snowflake tires and driving to the conditions. M+S tires are also acceptable in our neighbouring jurisdictions of Alberta and Washington.

      Thanks for taking the time to comment.

  5. leif on January 16, 2015 at 6:56 am

    Contrary to what is stated above about being required on Drive Axles. Studded tires must always be on the rear Tires. ;
    Studded Tires – Regulations
    British Columbia

    In British Columbia (BC) Under the Motor Vehicle Act Regulations, tires with studs up to 3.5 mm high can only be used between October 1 and April 30. The regulations limit tires to 130 studs each for vehicles weighing less than 4,600 kg, or 175 studs each for vehicles weighing more than that. It’s important to note you can only use studded tires on the front wheels if you’re using them on rear wheels also (at least one studded tire per rear wheel). This means if you have a rear wheel drive vehicle you usually only use the studded tires on the rear wheels; however if you have a front wheel drive vehicle and use studded tires on the front wheels you must mount studded tires on the rear wheels also. Link here; http://www.bchighway.com/regulations/studded-tires.html

  6. Courtney Blain on July 15, 2015 at 11:03 am

    To be honest, I had no idea that there were studded tires out there. It’s interesting to read that you can put these on during the winter months only. Where I live, we have a lot of snow storms. Maybe I should get some tires like these so that I can avoid slipping.

  7. Jen C on October 4, 2015 at 6:02 pm

    I will be making one cross-country trip to move from MB to Lower Mainland BC during the first week of November…I know what the minimum requirements are, but what is the ideal tire type for the historical conditions through mountainous BC during that time? I understand that I am unable to use my current All-Season Tires with chains any longer. Thanks!

    • tranbceditor on October 5, 2015 at 2:21 pm

      Hi Jen. Good question – thanks for asking. We recommend you have winter tires with the 3-peak mountain and snowflake symbol for driving from Manitoba to the Lower Mainland in November.

  8. Linda Tucker on October 8, 2015 at 3:56 pm

    Thanks so much for sharing these four types of tires, and how to identify them. I really like that it is fairly simple to identify the type of tires you have. In fat, I’m not even sure if the tires I have on my car now are for all seasons, or just for the winter– I am going to check them out and see what they are!

  9. Tanis on October 9, 2015 at 12:16 pm

    I drove with all-season tires on my old car for 20 years and they did very well in the snow (although I grew up in Prince George and learned to drive properly on snow). I did purchase winter tires the last 5 years I had the car as I felt it would be safer and I hated them. I live and drive in Vancouver and I found in the rain that they were very slippery. When I had to make a quick stop they skidded a long ways. It really scared me driving with them. I have a new car now, but am hesitant to spend money on winter tires. Is this normal for winter tires to now perform well in Vancouver weather and road conditions? What is recommended? I seldom, but occasionally, drive to Squamish or Hope during the winter months, but rarely and not during any winter/snow conditions.

    • tranbceditor on October 13, 2015 at 10:34 am

      Hi Tanis,
      Tires with a Mud and Snow emblem (M+S) with a minimum 3.5mm tread are acceptable for winter driving in B.C. The winter tire regulation was recently amended to include M+S tires with Lower Mainland drivers in mind. Hope that this helps.

  10. internationaltraveler on October 14, 2015 at 10:16 pm

    We are coming to BC from the USA and purchasing tires in advance in the USA- do they have these same stamps or how do we know if the winter tires we buy will keep us from getting in trouble should we get pulled over in Canada? My husband has a 4×4 truck & he was going to get all seasons- will this be ok for travel through BC?

    • tranbceditor on October 15, 2015 at 9:47 am

      Yes, tires available in the USA have the same 3-peak mountain/snowflake and M+S (mud and snow) symbols that identify acceptable tires in B.C. between October 1 and March 31. We recommend installing 3-peak mountain/snowflake tires if you are travelling through B.C., whether you have 4X4 or not. They offer the best traction in cold, snow, ice etc. B.C. weather can change quickly, especially through mountain passes. That said, all-season M+S tires are legally acceptable, as long as they have at least 3.5 mm of tread. Hope this helps.

      • DJ on September 27, 2016 at 1:37 pm

        I have M&S tires WITH a winter snowflake on them. Is this an effective winter tire?

        • tranbceditor on September 27, 2016 at 3:52 pm

          Hi DJ,

          Sounds like a win- win! Safe travels.

  11. Gary on October 28, 2015 at 6:49 am

    Thank you for clarifying this. Safety is the responsibilty of the driver. The difference between tires determines how fast a vehicle can corner, accelerate and stop under different road conditions. It is *incorrect* to say that winter tires are safer on snow, it depends on the driver not the tires. Perhaps all season tires are safer as you cannot drive as fast with them in winter conditions. The key thing is adjusting for your speed and stopping distances. Watch for black ice on the shady sides of mountain roads and frosty conditions. CAA has a brochure on winter driving. Here is the link:caa.ca/docs/eng/winterdrivingbrochure_en.pdf

  12. Wendy Cartright on November 6, 2015 at 12:43 pm

    Thanks for sharing this information about different types of winter tires. Since it is getting colder out, I have been thinking about getting my winter tires very soon. I have never had studded tires before. Do you know if these provide better traction than traditional winter tires?

    • tranbceditor on November 6, 2015 at 2:13 pm

      Both studded and non-studded tires with the 3-peak mountain/snowflake symbol offer good traction in winter conditions. We suggest discussing with your local tire dealer based on the conditions you tend to experience.

  13. Denis Loewen on November 28, 2015 at 5:05 pm

    I have a two wheel drive truck with mud and snow tires front and back. Traction on ice and packed snow was poor so decided to put studded on the back. Took them off in the spring. Now Canadian Tire refused to put them back on saying I needed studded on the front or they wouldn’t do it. It doesn’t appear to be a rule in BC and so is just another way to force you to spend more money. Very annoying.

  14. Ji Hye on December 4, 2015 at 1:27 pm

    Hi
    I have a plan to go to Whistler ski in this winter with a rent car.
    The rent-car has “all whether” tire.
    Is it OK with the Whistler road?
    Is it OK with your regulation about the winter season tire?

    Thank you

  15. Ali on December 27, 2015 at 10:08 pm

    Hi
    All-Season tires as the 4th category mentioned above are permitted to use when winter tires are required.
    I have 2 pairs of ContiProContact tires which are introduced as All-Season tires on the producer website (Continentaltire.ca) while there is not any of above signs (M+S, snow sign, etc.) on their sidewall.
    Since continentaltire.ca seems to be the official website of the producer, can I consider my tires as All-Season & use them on winter tires required routes?
    Thanks for your attention.

    • tranbceditor on January 4, 2016 at 11:01 am

      Hi Ali,

      I suggest taking a closer look at the sidewall. Photos online of the ContiProContact tires show M+S marked in small lettering.

      • Ali on January 6, 2016 at 1:12 pm

        Thanks for your reply.
        You are totally right. There is a M+S sign on the side of the tires.
        Thnx.

  16. Jim on January 24, 2016 at 3:16 pm

    I’m moving from Vancouver to Vernon in Feb or Mar. The local UHaul office was less than helpful about what their trucks are equipped with, and whether they’re rated to go over the Coquihalla or highway 1. I’ll also be towing our car on a trailer (full trailer, not just a 2 wheel dolly).

    Any advice?

    • tranbceditor on January 25, 2016 at 3:31 pm

      Hi Jim,

      Could you tell us what sized truck are you renting?

      • Jim on January 26, 2016 at 8:13 am

        It’ll be a 15 or 17 footer. I don’t know the weight of the truck – UHaul’s call centre isn’t overly helpful in this regard!

        • tranbceditor on January 26, 2016 at 1:21 pm

          Hello Jim,

          We researched the GVW of a 17 foot truck on the U Haul website here: https://www.uhaul.com/Trucks/17ft-Moving-Truck-Rental/EL/

          The information on that page indicates that the truck has a max GVW of 14,050 lbs or 6372 kg.

          Commercial trucks weighing more than 5,000 kg GVW do not tend to use winter tires.

          Vehicles 5,000 kg to 27,000 kg GVW may use tires with the 3-peaked mountain and snowflake symbol or the M+S symbol in lieu of chains, if available. We suggest you ask U Haul to confirm that the vehicle you rent has sufficient tread on M+S tires and request chains so they are on board in case you need them. Here is a link to our winter tire website with more information: http://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/transportation/driving-and-cycling/traveller-information/seasonal/winter-driving/winter-tires-and-chains/about-winter-tires

          Hope that this helps!

          • Jim on January 29, 2016 at 8:31 am

            Hi,

            That’s a great help, thanks. I had a chance to stop by a UHaul location, and they were much more helpful than the call centre. The tires are M+S, but they don’t provide chains. They’re a fairly standard size of light truck tire, so Canadian Tire has them in stock. Interesting, Canadian Tire’s return policy is 3 day exchange only. I guess too many people were trying to “rent” chains?

  17. Anton on February 22, 2016 at 8:44 am

    I have a 2002 Honda Accord, 6 cyl, and like to know if the front and the rear tires have to have the same tread pattern. Can they be different and which one should be on the front?
    Do winter tires wear faster than all season tires if used year around?

    • tranbceditor on February 22, 2016 at 10:32 am

      Hi Anton,

      Winter tires (those with the mountain/snowflake emblem) maintain good traction in winter conditions because they are composed of a rubber compound that stays soft in cold temperatures.They are meant for winter use only and will wear more quickly during the summer months.

      Regarding your tread question, you must have at least 2 matching winter tires on the primary drive axle, but we recommend using 4 matching tires on the four outside corners of the vehicle – even when driving a 4X4 vehicle. Mixing tires with different tread patterns, internal construction and size compromises stability, and should be avoided. Hope that this helps.

      Here is a website with more information for you: http://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/transportation/driving-and-cycling/traveller-information/seasonal/winter-driving/winter-tires-and-chains/about-winter-tires

  18. Wanda on March 3, 2016 at 8:21 am

    Hello!
    I’m a big fan of your blog!
    Among the many posts you have published, I love this article, it’s very helpful to me. I’ve shared your awesome post to my friends.

    • tranbceditor on March 3, 2016 at 9:42 am

      Glad to hear that Wanda 🙂 Thanks for sharing!

  19. Amin on April 26, 2016 at 11:18 pm

    Hello, I read your full post. I can’t understand that what is different between winter tire of summer tire. Is there special different? I mean i am new there and i have perched new car 3 month ago so i don’t know different between winter tire of summer tire. Please advice me hear by your post. otherwise i also will use winter tire in my future.

    • tranbceditor on April 27, 2016 at 9:34 am

      Hi Amin,

      Winter tires (with the mountain/snowflake emblem) maintain good traction in winter conditions because they are composed of a rubber compound that stays soft in cold temperatures. Summer tires are made of a different, harder rubber compound than winter tires. Because winter tires have a softer rubber compound, they do not perform well during warmer summer months and they should be removed and replaced with all season or summer tires until next winter. If you live in the Lower Mainland, where temperatures are generally mild, and you don’t travel mountain passes very often, we recommend you use all season tires (with the M+S logo). Here is a blog we wrote which breaks down the types of tires for you in more detail: http://tranbc.ca/2014/10/24/how-to-choose-from-4-types-of-winter-tires-for-winter-driving-in-bc/#sthash.bjXFqvKG.dpbs

  20. Grant Smith on September 27, 2016 at 11:00 am

    Is there a chance that the use of new studded tire technology, such as the Nokian Hakkapeliitta 8 tire, will ever be approved for use on BC roads? They have considerably more than 130 studs per tire, but offer almost dry road driving control on even the slipperiest of roads. The Hakkapeliitta series tire is consistantly one of the highest rated studded winter tires in the world.

    Thanks 🙂

    • tranbceditor on September 28, 2016 at 10:01 am

      Hi Grant,

      Thanks for your question. Regulation has recently been updated from the traditional requirements for a certain number of studs per tire to a requirement for studs which do not protrude more than 2.0 mm. It has been found that tires with bigger (longer) studs are good for biting into snow and ice and providing traction in those conditions, however they do not provide adequate traction on bare road, because their height means very little of the tire (only the studs) are in contact with the road surface. Tires with smaller (shorter) studs are okay when on bare pavement, because more of the tire itself makes contact with the road. Here is the MVA language for you to review. Please note that subsection 1 below is the updated language, while subsection 3 speaks to older tires which have been grandfathered in until they are replaced with newer studded tires. Hope that this helps! Let us know if you have any other questions.

      Studs
      7.164 (1) A person must not use studs as a traction device on tires unless the studs
      (a) do not protrude more than 2.0 mm from the tread or traction surface of a tire,
      (b) do not have a hollow centre, and
      (c) are safely and securely embedded in the tire by the manufacturer or a person in the business of selling tires so as not to cause damage to the roadway.
      (2) A person must not use studded tires on the front wheels of a motor vehicle unless the back wheels of the motor vehicle have studded tires.
      (3) Despite subsection (1) (a), a person may use studs that protrude more than 2.0 mm but less than 3.5 mm from the tread or traction surface of a tire if
      (a) the tire was manufactured on or before August 31, 2016, and
      (b) the total number of studs in the tire does not exceed the following:
      (i) 130 studs if the motor vehicle has a gross vehicle weight of 4 600 kg or less;
      (ii) 175 studs if the motor vehicle has a gross vehicle weight of more than 4 600 kg.
      [en. B.C. Reg. 177/2015, App. s. 3.]

  21. Rob on December 1, 2016 at 9:16 am

    I just bought a brand new 4×4 but am sure it only has all season tires (no M+S)on it. As the tires are new (full tread) IF I am carrying chains can I travel beyond those winter tire only signs??? I notice that semi’s only have to carry chains so was wondering if the same could be applied to cars and trucks

    • tranbceditor on December 1, 2016 at 3:02 pm

      Hi Rob,

      Unfortunately only tires displaying the 3-peaked mountain and snowflake symbol OR the M+S (mud and snow) symbol, with at least 3.5 mm tread are accepted as winter tires on BC highways. Drivers may wish to enhance the traction of their winter tires by carrying chains however, chains on other types of tires are not an acceptable substitute for winter tires on signed highways. Given their extraordinary load and the softer rubber used in winter tires, it is not feasible for commercial vehicles to run winter tires as would wear through them too quickly. This is why we have strict and explicit requirements for commercial vehicles to use chains and areas set aside for them to chain up, should winter driving conditions present themselves. Hope that this helps.

  22. Craig on December 4, 2016 at 1:27 pm

    I work in law enforcement for the provincial government , and I’ m subject to enforcing laws that legislators make with no real world experience or common sense,and with no real experience in actually enforcing the laws. This is just one more example of this….. M+ S tires acceptable for true winter driving!!!!! What a joke! This is a big mistake and really a waste of time, true winter rated tires with the snowflake and mountain symbol should be the minimum rating! It seams to me that the legislators are trying to accomidate the coast with a one size fits all approach. Here is my prediction!!!! And I’ve never been wrong!!!! The amount of accidents that will occur due to people relying on the minimum requirement of M+S will increase accidents and force legislators to change the law to either require the snowflake and mountain symbol as a minimum or require tire manufacturers to change the characteristics of the M+S tires to be more like that of the snowflake and mountain symbol tires. Just my humble opinion! And remember….. never been wrong…… okay one time but that was years ago!!!!

    • tranbceditor on December 7, 2016 at 11:30 am

      Hello Craig,

      Thanks for your comment. We shared your concern with our traffic engineering branch and here is their response:

      This a complex issue that encompasses a wide assortment of issues, focussed on tires dedicated for roads covered with snow and ice.
      In the USA, these types of dedicated tires are called snow tires and not winter tires. The reason is that winter is a season, and not a road condition, and as such, in places like Miami, Los Angeles and Phoenix winter season generally represents different weather than what could be expected in Nome, Alaska.

      In British Columbia the winter season for the majority of the population is more about rain, or dry pavement that snow covered roads. Making people convert to a dedicated “winter tire” for a single trip from Vancouver to Whistler, or Vancouver to the interior, when most of the winter season will be on wet roads or dry roads does not make good safety or economic sense.

      As such, the ministry has set a minimum standard for snow covered roads, in recognition that many people in the winter season may only encounter such snow conditions for a short time, and where different tires might be the better choice for surface road conditions drivers’ encounter on a much more regular basis. The ministry does always say that if the environment you operate in is more snowy and ice filled, then full “winter tires,” including chains is the better choice.

      We often point to the rubber association brochure on winter driving which indicates that, from a safety standpoint, drivers should always select tires that best suit the driving conditions they drive the most in during the winter months.

      Hope that this helps!

  23. Scott on December 5, 2016 at 4:30 pm

    SO here is a very Simple question, I have excellent winter ties that I purchased for a vehicle I had last year, I would like to put them on my new vehicle, however the tires are for a 16 in rim and my new vehicle has 17 inch rims. New 16″ rims that would fit my new vehicle and the winter tiers are available, but I was told by Canadian Tire that if I drop down a size from the manufactures recommendation of 17″/7.5, that Transport Can would consider any accident sustained with the smaller tire would result in my ICBC insurance being voided, thus leaving myself and Canadian Tire liable.

    I got to be honest, this seems a bit far fetched considering that this small alteration is easily achievable as the appropriate rims are available at CanTire. Considering that we have all seen vehicles with much more extreme alterations, I’m gather that this guys was not correct?…But to be safe I’d like to confirm. To be clear here are the dimensions of everything I spoke of:

    I would like to take 4 near new 16″ Cooper Discoverer S/T Maxx Tires and place them on 4 new 16″ rims that are available and can accommodate the tires and fit on my new 2016 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon that specifies the current tire size as 17″/7.5.

    So really by dropping down to from 17″ to 16″ to make my jeep safer, I could be held liable? I cant seem to find any trace of this on TransCan or ICBC’s sites, please confirm.

  24. Momir on January 8, 2017 at 8:36 pm

    hi
    I have a set of conti procontact all seasons on my golf 7 and next week I will be driving up to Port McNeill to stay there for a month. I cannot figure out if the roads from Vancouver to PMcNeill are in good enough a shape for all season tire or do the driving conditions require winter tires? can you advise on this?
    thank you!

  25. Momir on January 9, 2017 at 11:40 am

    well not much really – you’ve told me all I already knew. I was asking very specifically about my journey
    I will try to find that info but so far all I’m getting are these general/generic safe answers that don’t help at all..
    thank you

  26. BCLowerMainlandDriver on January 9, 2017 at 10:36 pm

    Hi,
    Is it legal to use cable chains, i.e. Cobra Cable Chains – http://www.canadianchains.ca/Passenger-Car_c_1.html on Lower Mainland Highways, e.g. Hwy 91 or on inadequately plowed city/municipal roads? These are cheaper alternative than buying four winter tires with the 3-peak mountain and snowflake marking. Perhaps just to be used when one get stuck in a sudden snowfall. Please advise. Thank you.

    • tranbceditor on January 13, 2017 at 1:55 pm

      Hi BC Lower Mainland Driver,

      BC also accepts Mud and Snow (M+S) tires with a minimum tread depth of 3.5mm as a winter tire. This is because we understand that for a large part of the population of the province (those folks who live in the lower mainland) winter tires are not the most practical solution. We encourage drivers to carry chains as well (and know how to use them). Passenger vehicles may use alternative traction devices that provide similar performance to steel link chains, however, it is recommended that you only use these devices if they have been tested for performance in winter conditions. Here is a link to more information about winter tire and chain use in BC: http://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/transportation/driving-and-cycling/traveller-information/seasonal/winter-driving/winter-tires-and-chains

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